The troll invasion, and my way of stopping them...
Update: Posted both an exe and apk. This is the last apk I will post so make sure you import to the new app (more info on the blog below)
Seems like a lot of people are taking issue with the game. Their main gripe is about the donations and the things you get for donating. I don't want you guys to have to deal with these trolls, so... I will let them win.
Donating will no longer get you anything. Only donate if you feel like it, but I will not give out anything.
Of course, anybody who donated prior to this post will get their gifts. Have a good day.
Trolls, happy now?
Seems like a lot of people are taking issue with the game. Their main gripe is about the donations and the things you get for donating. I don't want you guys to have to deal with these trolls, so... I will let them win.
Donating will no longer get you anything. Only donate if you feel like it, but I will not give out anything.
Of course, anybody who donated prior to this post will get their gifts. Have a good day.
Trolls, happy now?
TROLLS I HATEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOUUUUUUU.Well sam can you catch a paras i sew one but i didnt catch him is it posible cuz im screaming why didnt i catch him.Soory for bad english.
ReplyDeleteI would understand them if it was a multiplayer game... but we are playing aganst the computer... if someone wants to pay for things it is not my problem... each one play like it's want
ReplyDeleteYes, Anon, you can catch a Paras. You have to be really quick and make sure there is only about 1 - 2 Pokemon out on the side he comes out, because he gets one shot by even the weakest of moves. A 20 Pikachu can quick attack him twice, however, and he'll be ripe for the picking (Personal Experience :P)
ReplyDeleteAnyway, its a shame you had to do this, but I think You did the right choice anyway Sam.
You guys are not trolls, just haters
ReplyDeleteWell, I would gadly donate, but not like I can xD
Omg... some people get on my nerves, sam fantastic game :) dont let them get to you
ReplyDeleteSam, I feel bad you have to deal with all this crap. Jealousy can be ridiculous, and the anonymity of the internet just makes it worse. Don't give up! I still plan to donate, but I see my donation as, lets say, "pre-financing" on any games you come out with in the future. I love PTD, and I know what you come out with in the future is going to be just as amazing.
ReplyDelete@Anonymous - Next and all other games will be original.
ReplyDelete@Anonymous - I'm flattered with that twitter, lmao even I laughed.
ReplyDeleteI really wanted a shiny mew too =/ It's a great game, but this kinda shoots my enthusiasm a bit.
ReplyDeleteYou could give the codes in events :D
ReplyDeleteSam, not only your game is great. You are great too. The thing you have done is fair. But in future try not to follow such advices. It is your game, anyway. Haters gonna hate.
ReplyDeleteWow... man I really hate people sometimes. This is a great game, and offering things like Shiny pokemon to donaters was perfect. It was a great way to say thanks to those that could donate, while keeping it free. It didn't even really give an actual advantage at all, there was no need for stupid trolls to flip out.
ReplyDeleteHowever, idiots yelling at you just because they're jealous of how nice of a product you've made and how many people like it, is an unavoidable step of becoming popular on the internet. It just means you're doing well c:
@Sam - Just found an issue that you will need to fix in the near future. At the moment it is fine as there is not many different Pokemon to catch but once you implement new Pokemon into the game the storage system will need to be tweaked as once you get past 24 Pokemon all in storage the Pokemon go off the screen. Maybes a scrolling system or a box style system similar to the original game would work.
ReplyDelete@matt, well said my friend, well said XD
ReplyDeleteHey Sam,
ReplyDeleteSorry you had to do that- people love to whine. I have a quick question--the new version of PTD shows up on Newgrounds on my desktop computer, but it does not on my netbook, and I have my file on my netbook. I need to do the online save so I can play on my phone, etc., but despite refreshing, reopening the browser, etc., it doesn't open the new version. Any tips?
Best,
Klaxon
Anon speaks, and the internet listens.
ReplyDeleteBut Anon is not one being, Anon is many, and varied.
This Anonymous brings no ill-will, only a profound sense of arrogance, an annoying speech pattern, and a bigass thumbs up.
Can't wait to see what the future games will be like.
I'm glad I donated while I did! It was around 2:10pm, the one with choffee in it. I'de rather not post up the actual email because crazy "trolls" can blow up my email that I use for business. Best advice I can give you is to stay who you are throughout the madness, and keep the original vision you had in your head. (Meaning you can't please everyone, and don't take anything personal from the babies trying to F everything up) I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines! Also, like I said when I donated, if you need some personal business advice, I'm happy enough to give that for free.
ReplyDeleteHey Sam, is there anyway you could maybe put up one more day of giving away codes for donating? I was only waiting to donate for when I felt secure I'd get a mew code (I'm a bit cautious sometimes); just saying that a one day head up would be appreciated. I hope I'm not being a troll, I was just really excited for a shiny mew and other goodies =]
ReplyDelete*wah crybaby wah* Onoz, ppl getz stuffs I no has 'cos they givez monies they earn and I no wanna!
ReplyDeleteIf someone wants to give a free gift that cost no money to make in the first place (though granted some time coding it special and whatnot) to someone who donated, let them. And if you don't like that, look at it as a transaction. Whereas money was exchanged for goods and/or services.
Your game is awesome. If someone doesn't want to play 'cos they're spoiled and want something for nothing, screw 'em. I'd personally rather let my greatest work (as chosen by voters) fail in the face of the undeserving.
@Sam please tell me how to save I'm a fan nd love the game
ReplyDelete@Sam- Just a suggestion, if pokemart wins the vote what will be avalabile to buy? As I would suggest a moonstone and a thunderstone so we can evolve picachu and jigglypuff. You could put the price high e.g p 1000 or p 1500. Also you could sell a few pokemon moves to start the mart off. Finally if you do raise the cap you could raise it to 40, this way there would be a lot more pokemon to evolve this week and keep you customers hooked :)
ReplyDelete@sam or anyone that can help- i am having an issue saving my profile. I saved it once before but when i click the button to save again it says "error- problem with email or password". I would like to fix this so I can transfer all my updated data to the ptd lock. thanks
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Nooo sam don't listen to them and we don't mind really most of us just ignore it anyway.I will still donate even without the gifts. But I still think you should keep them in. Screw the trolls they are just a bunch of sad 10 year olds who are pissed they don't have money to donate.
ReplyDeleteIt's your call, but i'm not sure this is the best decision.
ReplyDeleteThere will always be trolls, no matter what you do, and paid extra content is always nice to have, for the players and for yourself.
Like someone said, this is a sign of recognition of your good work, don't let the trolls get to you.
Crazy thought, but maybe you could create a pokemon "trading" store, where you could sell extra pokemon. That way, people could choose between whether they want to gain experience and money by defeating pokemon, or just gain extra money by catching then selling them. Obviously, pokemon at higher levels or that are more rare would be worth more money, which someone basic like a weedle would sell for only slightly more than the money you get for defeating him. Also, if you have spent a lot of time training a pokemon, but end up wanting to replace it with a stronger pokemon, you were get monetarily rewarded for selling it. It could even eventually turn into a place where people could trade/sell pokemon, via the internet, with other players in the game. Just a thought...
ReplyDeleteOh @sam I figured it out just gotta start over no prob itll b fun:) thax for the app game now yur awesome
ReplyDeleteLike many of the others said, this is the best game ever and if haters are going to keep bothering you, you just have to ignore it. No matter what you do or how you decide to do it, it will turn out amazing.
ReplyDeleteI really hating these trolls. It stops good people from having fun
ReplyDeleteMy pokemon wont level up past level20 and they have full bar of exp.. Help please?
ReplyDeleteSam lvl cap should be maybe be 35/40 bcuz my pokedroid app shows charizard n pigeot evolving @ 36 lvl
ReplyDelete@ann- the level cap is 20. so until sam raises it you will not be able to level up past 20.
ReplyDeleteSam lvl cap should be maybe be 35/40 bcuz my pokedroid app shows charizard n pigeot evolving @ 36 lvl
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ReplyDelete"Anonymous said...
My pokemon wont level up past level20 and they have full bar of exp.. Help please?"
Because there is a level cap so you can't go past level 20. I heard that the cap is going to be raised in the next update that should be out next Sunday. It will probably be raised to 30 but hopefully 40 to allow us to evolve a lot more of our pokemon. hint hint sam =)
Errr, I donated earlier prior to seeing this post >< would I still be able to get the code for a shiny starter? :)
ReplyDeleteEmail was lindlest@email.uscupstate.edu
Just in case it was needed. Sorry for what you're going through as well. It's a shame, really.
Would it be possible for you to post a list of currently available pokemon? Maybe on your next blog? So I can make sure I have caught them all?
ReplyDelete@sam so this ptd lock will update automatically? Thats means no downloading of .apk fies from here
ReplyDeleteThnx 4 answering!!(if you have time to answer)
Awwww Sam what a shame I was gonna donateas well for the shiney mew I was waiting to get confermation for the offer as well. But more importantly I love love love this game it litteraly made me go out and buy a gameboy advance SP and pokemon fire red. I'm still gonna donte my $20.00 just because this game is amazing and I hope to see you continue to update the android version.
ReplyDeleteI also plan on donating $20.00 for every 3-4 stages you put out! Keep up the good work you guys!
PS please make it possible to catch an onyx!
Continue to progress as you are, and I may have a business proposition for you.
ReplyDeleteaww sorry.about that sam. You're doing some great work on this game.
ReplyDeleteCame here in the first place to say I love the new level and the profile.save.and ptdlock! I saw one comfy in the market when I downloaded that spoiled everything that I marked as unhelpful.
Also, to everyone having a hard time getting paras, I got it on my second play of the level when a wave of 5 paras came down on they left side.
Love the Game, can't wait for the next update, really want to evolve my Nidoran male.
ReplyDeleteHey Sam,
ReplyDeleteGreat work so far! Don't worry about the trolls, there were always going to be some. I like the idea of putting an advert before the game - hopefully this will offset the reduction in donations. And keep up the good stuff!
Sorry about trolls.
ReplyDeleteAnd I am not sure if you will even get the chance to read this since you always have hundreds of other comments but I have an issue with the game.
I am now playing the 2.0 on Newgrounds and just played Viridian forest 2 level for the first time. The problem is that I am on level 30 of 30 and the game thinks that it is over, but it also has not ended.
A Beedrill with practically no health left is just barely off screen, but I can see its antenna and health bar. My pokemon can not attack it and since the game thinks it has ended the Beedrill has stopped moving just before off screen. The game is stuck and so all I can do is exit the game.
It is not a big problem, just a glitch.
I hope it gets worked out.
Thanks.
Sam,
ReplyDeleteIve been with this game since day 2 on the market, and i have to say, it is one of the most addicting games i have ever played. As for the donations and reward system, how will people know that youve stopped giving rewards? If you say you stopped, that will stop the trolls, and if you keep rewarding, you'll still get donations. Just a thought.
Down with the trolls.
CHAMP suggestion ^
ReplyDeleteA question about the game. Why do all of the Pokemon have the same exact range in their attacks. I would kinda figure that quicker pokemon, or ones that use ranged attacks, would have greater range then physical only pokemon/attacks. For instance, water guns range should be more then a bite or tackle, and a pidgey, with it's wings, should be able to travel farther then a paras. Just saying it might be interesting and it would give a way to separate the pokemon and moves more. As it stands, there is almost no reason now not to use the attack that does the most damage the fastest, which means there are 3 moves for many pokemon that are never used.
ReplyDelete@Sam
ReplyDeleteCongratulations for the great game!
I wanna donate because this game is so cool!
I think that 5 - 20 dollars is nothing for a great game.
The donation is important, because you waste time to make this game, its your work (job).
I don't need any gift for the donation.
The game is that gift!
But some people needs it, and it would be some less important in the game, like something decorative or a item that can be adquired on the poke market.
Sam great game I was just wanderind if you could put the game on more websites so more people can play the game... Also can you give more mystery gift codes and lets say every 7 levels a player completes they get a free code so they don't have to use a lot of money...
ReplyDeleteJust wandering
It would be really great if you could make a make-shift pokedex with a list of all the pokemon that are currently available for your game
ReplyDeleteFirst off I must say great game. I find that i can't wait for updates and check daily to see the progress. It's to bad no more codes for donators but since you're no longer giving mew out for donations maybe you could make it so you can buy mew with coins earned from killing pokemon. I know a lot of people are disappointed there's no mew now. I think it's a good idea.
ReplyDeleteHey I love the game, been sticking with all the updates, but I really wish I didn't have to choose my Pokemon team every time, maybe you could do something so it keeps the team the same every time?... Minor annoyance for me, but I'm sure you have a lot more to worry about, good luck with the game!
ReplyDeleteI am so sorry about the trolls. Hopefully you will be able to start rewarding donators again someday :(
ReplyDeleteActually I would much prefer there be some sort of in-game incentive for donating, if only to help prevent the suspension of updates due to some sort of financial issues.
ReplyDeleteCan you please send the updateS to myhappygame?!?!?!? All of my pokemon are lvl 20 and i dont wanna have to restart
ReplyDeletei think you should raise or eliminate the level cap. with my pokemon at level 20, it is hard at this point to want to keep playing when i feel like im getting nothing back....
ReplyDeletecan i still get a shiny starter even if i cant donate
ReplyDelete-Epicbluedragon
When will level 7 come out, PLEASE TELL ME.
ReplyDelete@sam, there is a strange glitch in viridian forest 2. My pokemon get stuck on this one pokemon, and just freeze. It's hard to explain. They are attacking a pokemon, and it has a red bar, but it just stays there, and my pokemon just stand there while the waves pass by. its very strange. the only way to go onwards is to catch the red barred pokemon. so...yea
ReplyDeleteSo is there any ETA on when trading might be implemented? No rush or anything. I would just like to have a vague idea. The game is awesome btw.
ReplyDeletehere is a suggestion, Give out the updates sooner to people that donate, like a day or two sooner, you would have to change your work schedule up a bit but it would be a good way for people to get a little something for their donation without unbalancing the game or what ever people think was happening. this would also be a way to get a heads up an on any new glitches/bugs etc.
ReplyDelete*Donating will no longer get you anything. Only donate if you feel like it, but I will not give out anything.
ReplyDelete.............. just as i donate to get a shiny starter......
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Not sure why everyone is trying to overload the poor guy with suggestions. And I can't imagine why everyone seems to be fond of the idea of a level cap of 40. The game isn't even at the second gym battle yet, and you want level 40s? At that rate you'd have level 100 by the time you get to the 5th gym. Then you all lose interest. Ease up, people.
ReplyDelete@ Sam, As I was reading through this I noticed someone posting that troll is a sign of recognition and that's true. Trolls will ALWAYS be around because they have nothing better to do with their lives so they have to assume the position of bad ass "cyber bullies" who are all most likely poons IRL. I also agree that this was a poor business decision, the fact that you got bonus content from donating was great for those who wanted it. Now there's little to no incentive so donations may or may not slow but I think you should bring it back despite what the douches say.
ReplyDeleteThere's a glitch in the game that makes it so your pokemon won't move but the enemies will. I found it by having 6 mankeys use fury swipes at the same time.
ReplyDeletewould it be possible if you could update us a pokemart, because i want a wigglytuff! great game! the trolls will hate it if they hate it, that does not mean you have to get rid of donation gifts!
ReplyDelete-Awesomejim-
P.S. i cant seem to find a paras!
Is the saving not working because of server stress? I can't get my profile to save.
ReplyDeleteI have a few recommendations as well:
Dots when inputting a password instead of characters, for privacy.
...that's it. Because this game is awesome. Keep up the good work mang.
Great game! I was a little leery at first, the game seemed a little simplistic, but I'm finding it quite addictive and now I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for the next level.
ReplyDeleteI did find one minor problems--not sure where to post it except here. If you have a pokemon positioned under the wave counter (the two bottom left spaces on the Pewter Gym, for instance), it's hard to move that pokemon. Especially annoying when Onyx is about to come out and you have to get all your pokemon out of the way--there's still time, but it's aggravating. It seems like there's room for the wave counter to be moved below the party status boxes, if you wanted. But like I said, it's a really small problem in an awesome game.
Can't wait to see your next update!
hey sam can you kinda hurry with that pokemart i want to be able to buy a moon stone so i can get a Nidoking. And why are there no girl nidorans
ReplyDeletejust wanna say that the next update should be raising the level cap on pokemon. great game love it!
ReplyDeleteSam, I know this may not be on the table, but I was just wondering if an iPod version will ever be released?
ReplyDeleteIf not, that's cool, I can just play on the computer.
Great stuff by the way, it's going to be an amazing game when it's fully completed (Imagine that, all gyms+elite 4+Mewtwo)
So glad I already got my codes. =D
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ReplyDeleteThere are girl nidorans (I've caught one) but they're just rare. I think Sam said they were 0.5% likely to appear. They are available on route 3. Keep playing you'll find one :)
@Sam
Is there any difference between the red & blue version?
There are girl nidorans, keep on playing route three and you will come across one at some point. there is a random factor to when pokemon show up so its different every time you play a level. Oh and to the person that is telling people to stop overloading sam with suggestions, he is the one who stated he was to be involved with us and here our ideas so he can focus on what to improve each week. Fair enough some ideas may not be great but its up to him to decide what should be implemented and when, we are mealy just giving him suggestions. Plus if he does raise the cap to level 40 playable factor won't were out any pokemon fan nows the higher level you are the harder it is to level up and by the time more pokemon are introduced It will take a long time getting them all to level 40.
ReplyDeletethere will be no lvl cap raise this release, stop stressing guys
ReplyDeletehey, i just read the twitter thing on the side that says competition winners on twitter will get spec codes for pokemon... now i'm strictly a facebook kinda guy... i was wondering if u could do a facebook page offering the same (i'm not opening a twitter account soley for 1 game)...
ReplyDeletealso @richard - no lvl cap increase??? can barely kill half the pokemon on viridian 2 as it is. 6 pokemon @ lvl 20 cannot kill half the pokemon... lvl cap raise is much needed
@anon 6.52am
ReplyDeletewe ain't even at 2nd gym yet, so if the lvl cap is raised, it will be too easy to complete it once we get there... plus the aim of virideon 2 is to lvl up/get money, you still pass weather you kill them all or not...
keep up the good work sam :)
uhu i just followed this blog!
ReplyDeleteSam, First of all, your game is incredible. Second, I wonder if a compromise between the trolls and the majority of us who have no problem with donating for shinies, might be to allow doners to receive shinies, but to make shinies equal in every way but their appearance.
ReplyDeleteI really admire that you give all of us a voice in your creative process and I think that this issue could be put to a vote - just like you are doing for the advertisement at the beginning of the game question. For example:
- I think donating should earn shiny pokemon (%)
- I do not think donations should earn shiny pokemon(%)
- I think donating should earn shiny pokemon but they should be equal to normal pokemon in all ways but appearance(%)
i dont see a problem with getting things for donating, its not like there is anything you honestly gain from what you get apart from a pokemon that levels slightly faster, if you think thats cheating then dont donate, its not like there is high scores or something to compete with.
ReplyDeleteSo how do I get the code for mew because I was out on business and unable to get to a computer
ReplyDeleteThats a shame.
ReplyDeleteIma Donate anyway :)
Because honestly this is one of the greatest games on the web atm!!!
Hope the money helps and keep up the good work!
can i just say somthing about donating.
ReplyDeletethis is an internet pokemon game. I'm not saying they will all be this but most of the players will be underage and not able to donate.
im not a troll. im just sharing my opinion.
Since you are making a pokemarket, you should also create a pokeblack market for really high powered pokemon or shiny pokemon or starter pokemon for a high price and the "trolls" arent donating. donating doesnt get anything in return getting something in return is called buying it and im glad you stopped that shiny thing because know the people that donate donate money because the game is good and they dont care for anything in return, just the game to update.
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But See this really only hinders the game. If people are going to only be donating because they want to see the game advance, im sure there will be less meaning the game will genereate less revenue and therefor develeopement will move slower if at all
ReplyDeleteon v202 has a bug on pewter gym, The onix don't appear.
ReplyDelete@Sam-Is there anyway you could sell the mystery gift codes at the Pokemart for a high price?
ReplyDeleteSam I think you are a god among game creators. PTD is one of the best games I have ever played before. I was wondering what would the Poke-market would be selling like stones, or moves? Keep up the good work.>^_^>-<^_^< :)
ReplyDeleteare the pidgeys supposed to evolve at lvl 16 coz my pidgey got lvl 16 and dint evolve
ReplyDeleteI LOVE PTD!!!!!!!! Best game ever! >^_^>-<^_^< hehe
ReplyDeletei very much like the game i have caught every one of the the pokemon and got them to level 20 i see the extent of the game so far and i cannot wait to see what you do with the game i cant wait till you take off the level cap oh and very nice the way you capped it cause i dont think anyone remembers that rat and spearow evolve at 20 lol plz keep updating it cant wait to see
ReplyDeleteI need help for beating mtmoon1 because the goedudes are hard and im at lvl 20 with several pokemon.and wats PTD???
ReplyDeleteI think the this game is the best and hardest (fun still too) and it is fun for poeple who doesnt like pokemon, like me (:
ReplyDeleteim losing my patinece because i cant wait for the v2.3 update to come. the only game i dont want to cheat on!
ReplyDeletebut the bummer is the cap i think you can raise the cap to 50 but its sad how you spend so much time making games with NO pay and you get crap
ReplyDeleteIm getting off the xbox 360 and black ops to play this game ONLY. Youre doing great sam
ReplyDeleteThe shiny pikachu,is it blue?
ReplyDeleteall my life ive played pokemon games and the one pokemon i always love was raikou lool that thing about the poke black market would be good cause then id be able to buy pokemon that i want lool
ReplyDeletei have buyed leaf stone for ivysaur but it din'tevolve why?
ReplyDeleteIvysaur does not evolve from a leaf stone. It evolves into Venasaur at level 32. Not trying to be mean but I facepalm when I see this. (Been playing the games since yellow ._.) There are multiple sites you can use to find not only this info, but which pokemon DO evolve through the use of stones, what level pokemon evolve, and what level they learn moves. Two of these site are serebii.net and bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net
ReplyDeleteSo I can't get a shiny mew now? *sad face*
ReplyDeleteRaise the Lvl cap I have 16 lvl 25 pokemons and that took 2 days only
ReplyDeletethis a great game but this site hacked it. ( www.hackedarcadegames.com ) sry Sam people are taking the fun out of the game. :(
ReplyDeleteyou should take the weekend off but if you got some time on weekdays you should get a head start on the new gym-level not trying to be a troll
ReplyDeletewoah j dog is right why dont you put on firewall?
ReplyDeletei buy 2x fire stone but my charmeleon didn't evolve
ReplyDeleteI cant play it on my computer, whuy? plzz help me.....
ReplyDeletefuck you sam this game sucks ass find a better game 2 make or just kill yourself you fucking whore!!!
ReplyDeletewhoa man chill out leave the man alone he is working very hard why dont you kill yourself if you want to make people hate you sam dont listen to him he is a dickhead
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