A new story direction!
Greetings!
Let's get right to it! But first...
Along with changing the main character it was more interesting to also have the game take place in the Cosmoids original planet. This will allow for some creative environments that you wouldn't find on earth.
Let's get right to it! But first...
Baby Update
A little bit less than a month is left before Caleb is born, we are very excited we have all the things ready for him and can't wait!
A new story direction!
When playing games I have found that personally for me having a story makes me more likely to finish a game. Even if the game wasn't that good, if I got invested in the story (even if wasn't that good) I felt more compelled to finish it.
This was the reason I choose to add a story element to PTD. I notice no tower defense games had a big story and I thought it would be a great addition.
So naturally for Cosmoids TD I also wanted to have a story. Originally I envisioned Cosmoids as something very similar to Pokemon. Over the years I've thought about the origin story of Cosmoids and it has changed here and there but some of the same elements have remained the same.
The story started with a powerful alien being known as the Wishmaker that encounters a young boy and grants his wish to bring these Cosmoids to Earth. I was pretty committed to this story line until a freelance artist that I hired made a concept art for the Wishmaker. I thought it looked so cool that I decided to make the Wishmaker the main character.
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| The Wishmaker |
Along with changing the main character it was more interesting to also have the game take place in the Cosmoids original planet. This will allow for some creative environments that you wouldn't find on earth.
The next major change that I wanted to make is that in pokemon, while the pokemon are smarter than your average animal they mostly co-existed with humans the way pets do. For Cosmoids now that we are exploring their planet. I thought it would be very interesting if the Cosmoids were more humanoid like. They could speak a language, they used tools, clothing, communities. So instead of capturing them as beloved pets. You will recruit them for your cause. Below is a small preview of how a cosmoids like Chameleaf will look like. Keep in mind this is an early work in progress.
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| Chameleaf - Creature like (left) to Humanoid (right) |
I've been mostly focused these past few weeks to working with my artist, trying to nail down the new direction so I haven't work a lot of the prototype but next week I will talk about how to focus on features and task that are needed versus wanted.
As always let me know what you think about the new story direction in the comments below, or twitter or by email at sam@sndgames.com
Have a great week and thanks for your continued support!
when we said new blog post
ReplyDeletewe meant a blog post with prototype v2 or something like that
not just the new story
And one question, or two: will you have to battle and if that is yes, how many cosmoids ca be in your party if there is no battling what would you normally do in cosmoids
There will be battles, and you can have 6 in your party.
Deleteye but about the first bit when is prototype v2 coming out
Deleteand if its not coming out now will it come out next week
DeleteI may be making some big changes to the prototype, possible make it more like champions td
DeleteYeah but you haven't answered my question
DeleteWHEN IS THE PROTOTYPE COMING OUT
and what takes up all your time
I'm not sure when it's coming out, right now my full time job and pregnant wife take most of my time >.<
Deleteyou suck ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh roasted
DeleteWhy u bully
DeleteGreat work! And congratulations!
DeleteSorry if I am rushing but any idea when you'll release it?
ReplyDeleteI will release it little by little it will take a while before you see it completed, maybe years
Deletewhat is this all about
ReplyDeletemy next game Cosmoids TD
DeleteWould you possibly take Fan-Created cosmoids. once the game is released, of course?
DeleteSure I would be open to them even before the game is released
Deletewhy didn't I see this sooner, I GOTTA MAKE SOME COSMOIDS!
DeleteI guess i'll make the starters and the first 3 wild cosmoids
Deleteso i did the grass type cosmoids(which is like a massive upgrade to treecko's evolution line)
DeleteNice! Actually I played the PTD games mainly for the story so this mini blog is actually pretty good. Hope the coding for the second prototypes won't be too hard for you.
ReplyDeleteGood to hear you enjoyed the story for PTD! I probably spent more time on figuring out the story then the actual levels >.<. As far as coding, it's not really about it being difficult, it's more about how much time I have.
DeleteOh ok.
Deleteuwu
DeleteIt's a amazing block .When playing games I have found that personally for me having a story makes me more likely to finish a game.
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hey congrats ,are you going to have any pokemon event for it
ReplyDeletewhat do you mean by pokemon event?
DeleteI mean once you launched kyurum mystery gift code on your birthday for 1 week . Like that anything this time
DeleteAnd I wanted to ask that is there a way to download ptd 3 in mobile.
DeleteAnd why don't you add more legendary pokemon to your games like solgaleo deoxys etc.
DeleteWould definitely want to do events for Cosmoids, no current way of ptd3 for mobile
DeleteOkay,Thanks for answering.
DeleteI really like the ideas for the battle system, and I like the idea of you being on their planet a lot more. I personally do not like the humanoid idea, but I am also probably misunderstanding it. It'd be cool for there to be humanoid creatures, but I don't like the idea of all the creatures having a humanoid form, although as I said I'm probably misunderstanding it.
ReplyDeleteI do have 1 question, though. Will there be "evolutions" that happen based on level similarly to Pokemon? (Obviously it wouldn't be called that, but like a growth system of some kind.) Or will the creatures just stay as they are when received?
I tried clicking "notify me" but it won't let me, so I guess I'll just have to check in and see if I got a reply every once in a while lol. Keep up the good work.
In the next blog post I will clarify the humanoid form. I've actually redesigned chameleaf so it will look different with what I have shown.
DeleteRight now I am thinking of having "evolution" by leveling up.
sam will you ever make a ptd4 that has like all the regions and we can have at least like 10 save files one for each region like a big extension to ptd
ReplyDeleteprobably not but would like to expand on cosmoids :D
DeleteI'd like to ask some questions and suggestions:
ReplyDelete• It seems that cosmoids have types (elements?) like pokemon but... are they gonna be the same as in pokemon games? I think you could make this game more interesting by giving monsters a base type and letting players add the second one after getting a high enough level, by using item, or maybe by choosing one of many evolutions that add a second type.
Example: let's say we start a game with a grass Chameleaf. After getting to level 30 (or any other if it works better) we can choose it's second type or decide to make it even more grass-y (for double STAB or something). Depending on the choice the color scheme of that Chameleaf could change a bit. This way hard collectors would have a lot more work with getting all possible combinations and all players would be able to actually customise their creatures a bit.
• The new cosmoids are a lot more humanlike so... can they use weapons or tools? In and outside of battles?
• How about making creatures stronger in some way depending on other creatures that are placed around them? It could be done by borrowing STAB (grass cosmo with fire attack could use it with STAB when they're near a fire cosmo) or maybe getting a passive abilities based on types of other creatures around (for example sitting near two wind/flying cosmos and one water could give an ability to ignore 20% of dmg and standing around electric and water adds to attack speed - this kind of combos).
My suggestion are only suggestions and nothing more so feel free to tell me they're terrible and completely ignore them if you think so, I won't be sad or anything.
Great questions and suggestions!
DeleteI like the idea of having multiple options for how to "evolve" your cosmoids, I've been thinking a lot about a feature like that and second type could be a way of doing it, I will have to consider it when it comes time to decide what to do, thanks!
They are definitely capable of using weapons and tools, how that will be implement in the game is still to be determined.
I also lke your idea of bonuses for having them stay together or near eachother, could be very cool and can be something that only certain cosmoids have or that they all have.
Mistrz Varflock
Deleteyour first suggestion is a bit like digimon but you could also (like digimon) have multiple cosmoids evolve to a certain cosmoid and there could be multiple evolution stages like:
fresh to in-training to rookie to champion to ultimate to mega and then you can merge to digimon (or cosmoids in this case) in to a powerful creature such as a legendary cosmoid.
Fresh could be the egg form, in-training is unevolved, rookie is 1st stage, champion is 2nd stage, ultimate is mega evolution and the other 2 could be even stronger version like a mega x and mega y but after the regular mega evolution and the mega x and ys could be the ones who merge and the mega evolution could be permanent.
The final feature I suggest is unevolving pokemon such as if charmander and charmeleon are cosmoids and you evolve charmander to charmeleon but you want your charmander back without cathcing or recruiting another one you could degenerate/unevolve the charmeleon to a charmander and all moves a charmander can't learn that charmeleon knows will be removed.
If you're going to make PTD 4 I would love to see pokemon versions diamond and pearl, mega-evolution, Z-moves, the starters either cosmoids or the Sinnoh starters, different varieties of items/pokeballs, characters/gyms/elite 4/champion based on diamond and pearl, and do it like you did in PTD 2!
ReplyDeleteAlso, I would love to see more interesting cosmoid ideas
DeleteA better idea than sinnoh is a completely new region with all an option to choose all 21 starters and all pokemon from every region like poochyena pidgey and bunnelby could be on route 1 and roggenrola geodude and noibat could be in the first cave
DeleteNot planning on making a PTD4, mostly focused on Cosmoids and future version of it
Deletesam did you like or going to use my idea of the digimon thing?
Deleteand imagine cosmoids td being more popular than fortnite
DeleteWill consider you idea for sure, more popular than fortnite would be amazing! I would be happy even with half of that popularity >.<
Deletehey sam just googled that whats the most popular game in the world AND IT WASN'T FORTNITE :I fortnite is 3rd pubg is 2nd and number 1 is LEAGUE OF LEGENDS with 80m players, 27m players a day
Deleteimagine yours being number 1 with 100m+ players a day and at least 1b players in total
i feels so good but at this rate you'll be number 1 in 2090 to 3010
Hopefully will be out before then hahaha
DeleteSo how long do you think we'll have to wait for each post?
ReplyDelete(I don't think 1 week is very reliable now.)
maybe 2 weeks to 1 month
DeleteBeen meaning to post soon but I keep getting busy with baby stuff >.<
DeleteSam just make a promise you will post and in it will be prototype v2
Deleteand you'll do it on the 20th of august or sooner.
I can't actually make that promise since my baby is due around that date
Deletewhen are you gonna make more ptd3
ReplyDeletehe stopped working on it you could finish ptd or ptd2 and when youve finished them you could complete the pokedex on ptd2 then like me
Deleteplay aqw at aq.com
and now we wait 20 years for just one comment
DeleteStopped working on it, in favor of Cosmoids TD
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Deleteor maybe 20 years for one blog post like we did last time SAM DO THE NEXT PROTOTYPE CUS YOU'VE HAD 2 MONTHS AND IM SICK OF COMING ON HERE EVERY DAY TO SEE JUST ONE MORE COMMENT FROM A RANDOM PERSON.
ReplyDeletejust one question: will there be a ptdtrading for cosmoids? and if yes will there be breeding? and a suggestion if both are yes cosmoids could create combos of them being together and the more they breed the better the combos can be and the babies they produce would be stronger or a higher lv at birth.
Thx Mistrz Varflock for insipring me for the breeding combos.
AND CAN THERE PLEASE BE A HALL OF FAME BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING 2 VERSIONS OF THE GAME: red and blue for ptd, gold and silver for ptd2, YOU CAN CATCH OR RECRUIT ALL COSMOIDS IN ONE SAVE FILE WHY AM I STILL SHOUTING!?
DeleteAND ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE WISHMAKER NO MATTER WHAT OR IS THERE GOING TO BE A FEMALE VERSION AND IN FULL RELEASE CAN YOU CUSTOMIZE YOUR CHARACTER AND GET NEW OPTIONS AS YOU PROGRESS IN THE STORY. BTW I'M A BOY.
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DeleteNo problem. The thing you said about breeding seems a bit similiar to the system in Siralim games, especially Siralim II. Both you and mister Otero might find some new inspiration after checking how that game works.
DeleteShort summary:
In that game you play as a king mage that breeds monsters and goes with them to dungeons. There are many kinds of mosters and they are divided into types (similiar to elements in any other game or pokemon types) and families (for example golems or lizards). When you breed monsters:
• both parents go away (it's a shame but it's required in that system)
• the child can be:
- of a certain species if that combination of parents is on one of many recipes in this game (recipes can look like "monster A + monster B = monster C" or "any monster of family A + monster B = monster C"),
- of the same species as the first chosen parent if there's no recipe for that.
• monsters get "gene points" from their parents. They are pretty much points that strengthen one of their stats and the points the monster gets is for the stats their parents had strong. I think they just get all of their parents' gene points too.
Another great breeding game is Monster Rancher, it's also worth checking if you don't know it.
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I understand you like SnD Games, @Pokemon geek, but seriously, don't yell at the game dev, please. :P Kids eat a lot of time, it might be the reason why they grow so fast...
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DeleteI was yelling because it took one month for a blog for just a really early story, get the point? and it's taking even longer to get another blog post done so basically a quarter of a year for prototype v2 when v1 took a week. So you probably get what i mean and im not on twitter so there's no need to put @ in front of my name.
To be honest, only the part when I was shouting in the first comment was actual shouting the rest I just left my caps log on for fun. I even said it in my first reply. :P
DeleteAnd now we wait for another 20 years...
DeleteI just noticed that the comment section is larger than the actual blog post lol.
DeleteThe reason it is taking long is because I haven't had any time to actually work on anything for a while, most of it has been planning in my head or working with the freelance artist on some character designs. I know you are wanting to see more and I want to give more but we need patience here.
Deleteok but can you pause the designs for a bit and get to developing the actual game? because it's been a while since i've actually interacted with the cosmoids game and it's really getting annoying to see someone posted a comment and that's all, so can you let out all that's in your head and work on developing it, and btw when's the next blog post and will it have prototype v2?
DeleteThe reason I can work on design is that I just have to send text to the artist, so I can do it while i am at work or doing other things, development I have to sit down on my computer at home which I can't always do, hope that makes sense. Prototype v2 won't be on the next blog post, as I'm changing the design so we are redoing Prototype v1 :D
Deleteso prototype v1.5??
Deletebut you said you can't always do the development not you can't never do it so why aren't you doing it, is it because of the baby coming or you don't want to or what reason JUST TELL ME!!! :)
DeleteI haven't been able to do it because of taking care of my wife since she is pregnant, I do want to work on it :)
Deleteoh so no prototype till you've had your baby?
DeleteAwww no more PTD3 :( guess I'll just have to play another game. Congratulations though and I'm sure your other game will be great :D
ReplyDeleteThanks!
DeleteSam when do you thing the full release for this game would be?
ReplyDeletefull release, if things go super smooth then late next year?
Deletei hope ptd3 will get an update, because i dont like cliffhangers
ReplyDeleteunfortunately, I won't be continuing the game, but I may post some of my plans for the story in a future blog
Deletegreat
ReplyDeleteSam when you stop working on cosmoids you could make coc(clash of clans) into a pokemon game. Then many people who love both (like me) could
ReplyDeleteFINALLY play coc on their desktop with pkmn and eventully it will become more popular than fortnite. Also how are you going to battle: is it like the ptd games or will it be different, I recommend battling like the 1v1 mode in ptd or trainer vs in ptd2.
I'm not familiar with coc
Delete... why!!!!!!!!! its just a game where you build a village and join a clan and raid other players
DeleteThere is a gameboy advanced gamed called Pokemon Conquest. It's probably not exactly what you're looking for, but it has a similar feel and better gameplay than PMD.
Deletesam can you re add the old Mystery Gifts from ptd1 and ptd2?
ReplyDeletewill consider it, ptd2 pretty much has all the mystery gifts necessary
Deletethanks sam
DeleteHey sam I created some cosmoids in paint 3d and i could email them to you?
ReplyDeleteif your willing to actually see them
Sure I will see them, but no guarantee that I will use them
Deleteok
Deletei tell you its me in the email
I sent it
Deletedidn't work the minecraft gift code doesn't work
ReplyDeleteyou probably don't want to click on those random links
Deletewell it said nothing about passwords and logging in and stuff
DeleteI guess i should reveal my true self
ReplyDeleteI AM POKEMON GEEK
ReplyDeleteand you should see im the pokemon master because i have a tepig as my profile picture, why tepig you ask? its cus TEPIG IS THE BEST BETTER THAN PIGNITE AND EMBOAR CUS THEY'RE WEAK TO PIDOVE
AND I ONLY SAID PIDOVE CUS PIDOVE IS IN UNOVA AND PIDGEY ISN'T!!!!!
ReplyDeleteAND NOW WE WAIT FOR SAM TO POST A COMMENT EVEN THOUGH I'M SENDING HIM EMAILS OF COSMOID IDEAS!!
ReplyDeletePOKEMON!!!!!!!!!
where is everyone?
ReplyDeletetaking care of my new son :D
DeleteHi sam i've playing PTD since i was ten...really awesome, love it. I'd like to know when the new update of PTD 3 will be... i really wanna play it!!! :v
ReplyDeleteSo far the next update will be never
Deletehe stopped working on ptd 3 or any game he made except cosmoids tower defence.
Don't be a jerk, he worked really hard on all of the games.
DeleteWhat Megamonsta2 said
Delete1. sam was helping his wife and now hes helping his baby and
Delete2. sam i dont understand that reply
Everything alright? I'm fine with a late post, just wanna be sure you're alright and nothing bad happened.
ReplyDeleteAlso sorry about all of the spam replies complaining. I guess people just have nothing better to do then complain about everything.
Everything is good, just getting adjusted to life with a baby and going back to work, hope to post soon!
DeleteBased off the art for charmaleaf, i think a lot of people would agree that the creature like graphics look better but the humanoid design is cool, but the manga like style doesn't look too good but maybe the game will bring it all together, either way can't wait!
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ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing such beautiful information with us. I hope you will share some more info about new story direction. Please keep sharing !
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Hey, it's me again, the "Unknown" guy. I heard the conversations about the cosmoids. I was really looking forward to PTD 4, but hey, I like the new idea, Sam
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Deletewhens the next ptd3 update?
ReplyDeletesam stopped working on ptd3
Deletesam u here?
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ReplyDeleteYou should try digimon tower defense
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ReplyDeleteCould you possibly start re-doing the old mystery gifts please, the new one are pretty old. Also I was inactive for a long time on PTD2 so i missed all of the earlier ones, i'm sure it would be nice for people who would be just starting also. Also i had an idea for the trading center, I thought it would be pretty cool if you made it on a cycle so you could see old trades again, this would also make it easier for people trading if they wanted to get there pokemon out there. Furthermore your game would be more popular. Also this is one of my all tie favorite games and I would just like to say you are freaking awesome and I wish you good luck on all your future games. You are the bomb.com
ReplyDeletei started playing 2 weeks ago and have 3 shinys but i can not get any codes at al
DeleteLike... mystery gift codes?
ReplyDeleteIf so go to this link:
After you have submitted codes, go to the place that says pokecenter and go to your home page, there in you "pickup area" you will find a male and female of your mystery gift
(hint* on Thursdays you get shadow versions of your mystery gift)
if this doesn't work... your screwed until Mr. Awesome (A.K.A Sam Otero) can help you
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Deleteyes the mystery codes are not available for me and i really don't have the time to search for one
Deletewhat link are you talking about. it does not show one
DeleteHere is the link you asked me for:http://samdangames.blogspot.com/p/mystery-gift.html
ReplyDelete#DABMODE YEET
ReplyDeletesam plz do a blog post
Hey Sam nice update for Cosmoids.... also CONGRATS ON THE BABY! Im glad you will become a parent and Im sure you will do great, also hes getting the best name ever! Though im probably biased considering my name is also Caleb except with a K "Kaleb"so yeah congrats again
ReplyDeletei did not know about this so now i feel bad about constantly talking and hoping for an answer from sam not u guys though u r pretty good
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ReplyDeletehow about making items more important . So lets say if your at max level on something they might drop bottles of exp or something that you could apply to other things that have the ability to take them eg. you have a lv100 cosmoid on the battle and a lv29 cosmoid you want to level up, your lv100 gains bottles of exp which immediately get applied to the other cosmoid in battle so that you actually still have to use it but it's less of a grind becuase your already at end game. also instead of "evolving" a cosmoid maybe instead they could gain an ability or can take items that make them more powerful, that would make it so that after you "evolve" you can still customize your cosmoid in many ways instead of one linear path.
ReplyDeleteI like your idea of the items, I'm still thinking of ways to provide interesting progress for Cosmoids
DeleteSo Sam I want to ask you some questions. 1. Why did you make ptd hard. 2.So I do understand your busy with a baby and everything and working on that game but why did you stop working on ptd 3? 3. are you done with pokemon tower defense for good? 4. Are you going to add gen 7 pokemon (if you not done with pokemon for good) 5.Ptd was very fun to play minus me rage quitting with the elite 4. 6 Have a good day/night
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ReplyDeletesam your a game developer, you can't just stop talkin your dreaam was to create cosmoids TD and now you've basically given up on it. Good luck on gettin this game as popular as fortnite
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ReplyDeleteI'm still checking if there's anything new from time to time. I'm probably gonna stop soon if it continues like this.
DeleteI'm off. Bye.
DeleteSo, I wanted a new PTD2 Mystery Gift, maybe Meltan?
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ReplyDeleteThe whole "pokecenter" (place where you can trade pokemon, get daily gifts and so on) is based on those accounts so I doubt Sam's gonna forsake them.
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I think it would be cool with the storyline focus to make the recruiting have different options. You would be able to level up the Wishmaker to a couple different paths. You could choose to threaten the species or befriend them to have them join you, there could be a dialogue screen in which you would have to make decisions and that would affect the outcome. That might bring it to far away from being a tower defense game though.
ReplyDeleteI love these ideas, I will be doing some of them :D
DeleteHey Sam can I ask you something about ptd 2 If yes please reply
ReplyDeleteSure go ahead
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